Vivian Norina CARSON

Other Events and Attributes:

• Minnesota Birth Certificate: 1912-42129

Notes:

In the 1940 census, she is probably the Vivian N Kincaid living with her husband Thomas O (or D) Kincaid in San Diego. Thomas, 31, is a salesman for a grocery store. Also in the household is, apparently, his or her daughter, LaVawn E (or C) Hall, age 1, born in California. Thomas had had one year of college, Vivian had been educated through the seventh grade.

In the 1950 census, the Kincaids lived in La Mesa in San Diego County, California. Thomas was the proprietor of a service station, Vivian was a saleslady for a cosmetics company. Their two children were LaVonne, 11, and Wayne, 8.

Vivian Kincaid and her daughter LaVawn Kincaid were baptized,as adult baptisms, in the La Mesa Presbyterian Church on 13 Apr 1952.

A Vivian N Carson, b. ca 1913, married Lionel S Waller in San Diego on 13 Nov 1979.

The Richardson Family Tree on Ancestry is uncertain on her parents, showing the father as “? Carson” and the mother as “Smith.”

Birth:
as Vivian Norina Carson, mother’s maiden name Smith

Vivian married Lionel Samuel WALLER on 13 Nov 1979 in San Diego County, California. Lionel was born on 26 May 1906 in Massachusetts; died on 8 Mar 1991 in San Diego County, California. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Thomas Duncan KINCAID. Thomas (son of Duncan E KINCAID and Euriel COX) was born on 4 Jan 1909 in Indiana; died on 7 Sep 1957 in San Diego County, California; was buried in Greenwood Memorial Park, San Diego, San Diego County, California. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Wayne Duncan KINCAID, Sr was born on 18 Sep 1941 in San Diego County, California; died on 12 Jan 2019 in San Diego County, California; was buried in Miramar National Cemetery, San Diego, San Diego County, California.

Notes:

In his 1918 draft registration, as Louie William Carson, he was the manager of his self-employed detective agency in Little Falls, Minnesota.

In the 1920 census, Louis was a 34 year-old divorced man, still living in Minneapolis. His occupation was (something) man for the Federal Government. Louis and Mamie married a second time, on 31 Jul 1920, in Minneapolis.

In the 1940 census, as Lewis Carson, he was living in Santa Barbara County with his brother and family. Lewis was unemployed but had been a narcotics agent for the U.S. government.

His 1942 draft registration has him unemployed and living with his brother Oscar F Carson in Goleta, California.

The index of Social Security Applications and Claims lists six different “original applications” for Louis William Carson, all for a man born 26 Feb 1885 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The applications have different SS numbers and list different parents:

1) March, 1940: father L J Carson, mother Cristin Miller, 536121652;
2) February, 1943: father Louis J Carson, mother Angla Hanson, 533220590.
3) April, 1943: father Larin J Carson, mother Angla Gaddis, 538208787;
4) July, 1944: father John W Carson, mother Anglo Goddis, 531260943;
5) December, 1944: father Louis W Carlson, mother Mary Hanson, 567344438;
6) June, 1945: father Joe L Carson, mother Clara Kimball, 541305216;

Louis married Mamie Norina SMITH on 27 May 1909 in Hennepin County, Minnesota, and was divorced. Mamie (daughter of Carl Johan August (Charles J, Charlie) SMITH and Amelia ISAACSON) was born on 21 May 1892 in Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota; died on 29 Jan 1980 in San Diego, San Diego County, California. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Social Security Number: 572-03-7853 Issued In California Before 1951
• Baptism: 16 Jul 1892, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota

Notes:

In the 1895 state census, she was living with her mother, 26 year-old Emelia Smith on a farm in Washington County apparently run by Albert and Anton Isaacson, ages 23 and 19 respectively, who were probably Emelia’s brothers.

She was living with her mother and her mother’s new husband on Washington Avenue in Minneapolis at the time of the 1900 census.

Mamie was living with Al, Bess, and Morris at the time of the 1905 Minnesota state census.

Darleen remembers that Ida may have tried to adopt Mamie but Mamie ran away from Ide and Gus. That may have been about the time that the 1905 census records her living with Al and Bess.

She is entered in the records of the First Covenant Church of Superior as Mamie Norina Fogelquist, which she joined in May of 1907.

In the 1910 census, she was Mamie Carson, wife of Louis Carson. He was 25, born in Wisconsin to Swedish parents, she was 18 and had been married one year. They had a daughter, Dorothy, age one month. Louis was an operator at a detective agency.

In the 1920 census, in a supplemental addition “entered in census office from Misc. slips, sent in by Supervisor”, she lived with her daughters in Minneapolis. Their address seems to be 3840 29th Avenue. She was May Carson, age 28, divorced, a waitress in a restaurant. Her daughters were Dorothy, age 10, and Vivian, age 7.

In the 1924 Tacoma, Washington, city directory, she is listed as the widow of Louis and living at 5448 S Stevens.

An article in the Santa Barbara News-Press, 16 Mar 1927 edition, lists Mrs. Lewis Carson as a member of a Women’s Alliance of the Unitarian Church committee in charge of a food sale at the church’s Parish House.

In the 1930 census, she was Mamie N Reed, age illegible, married, living with her daughters in Tillicum, American Lake, Pierce County, Washington. Mamie was born in Minnesota to parents born in Sweden. The girls were born in Minnesota to a father born in Sweden and a mother born in Minnesota. Mamie owned the house that they lived in on Berkley Avenue; it was worth $1000. Both girls worked as waitresses at a hotel.

In the 1939 San Diego city directory, she is Mrs. Mae Carson, living with her daughters Dorothy L Carson, a waitress, and Vivian N Carson, no occupation, at 342a 20th.

In the 1940 census, she is probably the 47 year-old divorcee named Mae Carson who lives in San Diego with her daughter, granddaughter, and son-in-law. Mae had only a fourth grade education. She rents an apartment at 259 16th Street, usually works as a housekeeper in a private home and is currently unemployed. Only the son-in-law, Gilbert Manker, age 22, is employed and he is a fireman in the U.S. Navy. The daughter, Dorothy Manker, is 30, was born in Minnesota, and had only a 6th grade education. The granddaughter, Yvonne Argabright, age 4, was born in California. (The census image is indexed relatively correctly in FS but not in Ancestry.)

Yvonne Carol Argabright was born in San Diego County on 31 Aug 1935 to a woman whose maiden name was Carson.

In the 1940 San Diego city directory, Mrs. Mae N Carson lives at 259 16th. Also living at that address, and named Carson, is Vivian N Carson. Elsewhere in the directory, we find that Gilbert H Manker, wife Dorothy L, also lives at 259 16th.

In the 1942 San Diego County voter registration, Miss Dorothy L Carson, waitress, Mrs. Mae N Carson, housewife, and Miss Vivian N Carson, waitress, lived at 259 16th.

A Paula Mae Carson was born in San Diego County on 30 May 1952 to a woman whose maiden name was Ebert.

Mamie’s Social Security number was issued in California.

Last residence in San Diego 92104

Cora listed an address for Mamie West, 3035 Vancouver (sp.?), San Diego, California.

In the 1950 census, Mamie, a 57 year-old divorcee, lived with her daughter, Dorothy Casad, at 3035 Vancouver Street in San Diego. Mamie was a baby sitter.

Cora and Maurice visited her in San Diego on February 19, 1953. She apparently visited Maurice and Cora in April of 1953, having come to Minneapolis because Ide was in the hospital.

The address that Cora had for Mamie in her travel diary (1953?) was 3035 Vancouver Street in San Diego. Cora also included the name “Frank Cassad” in that address.

In the 1947 San Diego city directory, Frank A. and Dorothy Casad lived at 3035 Vancouver Ave. He was a mechanic.

Baptism:
Augustana Lutheran; her sponsors were Frank and Emma Fogelquist

Died:
as Mamie West

Notes:

Married:
as Mamie Carlson and L W Carson; they married a second time in July of 1920.

Other Events and Attributes:

• MN Death Cert Checked: Y
• Minnesota Death Certificate: 1926-MN-022069
• Occupation: Laborer
• Burial: 9 Jun 1939, Crystal Lake Cemetery, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota

Notes:

Emigrated May 16, 1881, according to Jan Webb. The portion of the family leaving Sweden at that time were Emma, Josephine, Charlie, Ida, and Hedda Sofia. Carl Oscar and Johan Alfred stayed behind in Sweden. The oldest, John, emigrated the year before.

From the Emibas CD:

Post 244732

Lundberg, Karl Johan August
Son (unmarried man)

b. 10/20/1867 in Annerstad, Kronobergs län (Småland)

Emigrated 5/16/1881
from Berghem Westregård, Kånna, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Nordamerika

Source: Emibas migration file ID: Kånna G 1881 017

Changed his last name to Smith.

Occupation of laborer was described as “house” for “Industry, Business, or Establishment in which at work.”



In the 1885 Minnesota state census, he may be the Chas Fogelquist, age 18, born in Sweden, living in Stanton Twp, Goodhue County. Or he may be the 16 year-old “Carl” Fogelquist living with Frank and Emelie in Cannon Falls.

At the time of the baptism of their daughter “Maimee” in the summer of 1892, he and Amelia lived at 1200 Franklin.

In the 1895 state census, he may be the Chas Smith living at 362 Cedar in St. Paul. That person was 27, was born in Sweden, and had been in Minnesota for 14 years. He was a hostler and had been in St. Paul for 2 months.

A Charles J. Carlson was issued a marriage license (to Helga Josephine Peterson) in Minneapolis in March of 1897.

In the 1897 Superior city directory, he is Charles Fogelquist, a laborer, boarding with Frank and Emelie and Sandy at 416 Fisher Avenue.

In the 1899 Superior city directory, he is Charles Fogelquist, a laborer, boarding with Frank and Emelie and Sandy at 912 Baxter Avenue.

In the 1901 Superior city directory, he is Charles Fogelquist, a laborer, boarding with Frank and Emelie and Sandy at 1209 Winter.

There were at least four possibilities for Charles Smith in Superior in the 1900 census but none of them are a perfect match for other information.

He applied for his marriage license (as noted in the St. Paul Globe, 29 Jan 1902) as Charles J. Smith, marrying Amanda Davidson.

In the 1905 Minnesota state census, he was C. J. Smith living with Amanda, Melvin, and Eva at 1807 6th Street South in Minneapolis. He is a day laborer. He has been in the state for 25 years and in the present enumeration district for 2 months. Amanda had been in the state for 3 years and 11 months. Apparently, the family had moved to Minneapolis from Superior in April of 1905.

In the 1909 city directory, he was Charles Smith, bicycle repairer, doing business at 1921 East Franklin and living at 1917 East Franklin.

In the 1910 census, Charles Smith, 43, and his wife Amanda, 34, were living at 1915 E. Franklin in a rented apartment in a multi-family dwelling. Charles and Amanda had been married for seven years and Amanda has had two children, both still living. The children are Melvan, 7, and Eva, 5. Both children were born in Wisconsin. Charles’s occupation is bicycle repairer at a shop. Charles came to this country in 1880 and Amanda in what looks to be 1908. (?)

The 1919 Minneapolis city directory has him as Chas J Smith, grocer, 3853 41st Ave S. Charlie’s store was lot 17, block 1 of the Lawndale subdivision. It, and the corner house next to it at 3857 41st Avenue, existed in 1914. The Hennepin County Interactive Maps shows that 3853 was built in 1900 and 3857 was built in 1912.

At the time of the 1920 census (January 5th), the family was living at 3853 41st Avenue S. in a house he owned without mortgage. The family consisted of Charles J., 53, Manda, 42, Melvin, 16, Eva, 15, and Lillian, 1 and a few months. From a photograph supposedly taken in October of 1917, this building was Charlie Smith’s grocery store. Charlie is shown in the census as having immigrated in 1880 but the year is hard to read. Also shown as “Pa” for the question “Naturalized or alien?” so at time of census appears to have been not a citizen. Manda came to the U.S. in 1901. Charles’s occupation is shown as laborer in the house industry. Manda was a retail merchant in the grocery industry. Melvin was a laborer in the general store.

The family lived at 3418 Bryant at the time of Lillian Isabel’s death in 1921.

His obituary was in the Sunday, October 31st edition of the Minneapolis Journal. Charles J. Smith passed away on Saturday, October 30th. He is survived by one daughter and one son. Services will be held Monday, November 1st, from the Sundseth Funeral Home, Lyndale at 21st Avenue North, at 2:30 PM. Interment at Crystal Lake.

His death certificate shows he had been living in Princeton for 4 months before his death.

Burial:
reburial by Ida Deiters

Died:
7:25 AM according to the death certificate

Carl married Amelia ISAACSON in Jan 1890 in Minnesota. Amelia (daughter of Isaac PETTERSSON and Brita JACOBSDOTTER) was born on 2 May 1869 in Kappebo, Dalskog, Älvsborgs läns, Sweden; died on 17 Jan 1902 in Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Or Emelia. She was born Amalia.

Her name is spelled Amelia, the name shown as Mamie Norina Smith’s mother, in the Minnesota Births and Christenings database.

In the 1895 state census, she was the 26 year-old Emelia Smith living with her daughter on a farm in New Scandia Twp, Washington County, that was apparently run by Albert and Anton Isaacson, ages 23 and 19 respectively, who were probably Emelia’s brothers.

An Amelia Smith married a C Holm in Hennepin County on 16 Dec 1899.

She and her daughter were living with her new husband (first name Claus, last name begins Hal or Hol, indexed as Holmes) on Washington Avenue in Minneapolis at the time of the 1900 census. She had had only the one child and had come to the U.S. in 1881.

Birth:
per Karen

Died:
per Karen

Notes:

Married:
The St. Paul Globe’s January 7th, 1890, edition lists “Charles Carlson and Amelia Isaacson” as having been issued a marriage license the previous day.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Farmer

Notes:

According to Cora, wealthy, may have owned and/or bred race horses. Supposedly killed by a horse, according to Cora.

Other sources say murdered and the villain was never caught. Murdered according to Jan Webb posting. Died in Berghem Andersgard.

According to the Kånna church book’s death record, as translated by Carl Johan: “Died very hurt. The skull cracked, probably during a fight (man to man). Beaten to death." Carl Johan’s additional comments: He died of a skull fracture. It seems that the authorities speculated that he was beaten to death. It also states that the main suspect has escaped.

Cora would have gotten her claim of “killed by a horse” from Al or from Bess or Maurice who heard it from Al. Perhaps Al really didn’t know or else was citing an alternative theory that the family (and his mother) may have preferred. Perhaps “the authorities” reasoned that a Traveller was as likely to have been murdered as to have been killed by a horse.

An alternative birth history for Salomon, according to Terry: 9-16-1839 in Hamneda, Kronoberg Iän, Smaland.

His age at death was “36 years, 3 months, 17 days” according to the death record. (That would put his birth at 6 Sep 1840.) His death record also shows that he was married when he died and that he was a bonden or peasant farmer.

In neither Annerstad nor Hamneda birth records for 1838, 1839, or 1840. There were only two Salomons born in that period in Annerstad. One was born on January 9, 1839, to Jonas Johansson and Brita Andersdotter. The other was born on June 17, 1840, to Pehr Bengstsson and Elin Andersdotter. No one was born in Annerstad on September 6, 1839. A Salomon Carlsson was born in 1839 in Södra Ljunga according to Patrick Johnson. That Salomon was born on March 5 (bapt. March 10) to Carl Andersson and Britta Maja Simonsdatter.

The Household Examination for Annerstad 1844-1851, p. 282 (”135/147, vol. 2”) shows Anna Andersdotter, pige (so unmarried), b. 10 Mar 1814, living with her two illegitimate children: Martha, b. 1 April 1843, and Salomon, b. 16 Sept 1839. The surname for Martha is not legible but it could be Carlson but seems more likely to be something like Christsson. Magdalena (#7261) should also have been listed here but wasn’t. There is no patronym for either child.

He and his family are not in the Annerstad Household Examination for 1872-1876.

Salomon and family moved to Berghem Andersgärd in Kånna on November 7, 1873.

Probably at least a half-brother of Magdalena (#7261).

Birth:
other sources say 16 Sep

Salomon married Emelie/Emmeli Wilhelmina (Emma) LUNDBERG on 13 Jul 1867 in Annerstad, Kronobergs län, Sweden. Emelie/Emmeli (daughter of Johan Mårten (Martin) Persson LUNDBERG and Maja Lisa LIND) was born on 20 Oct 1843 in Rydö, Torup, Småland, Hallands län, Sweden; was christened on 29 Oct 1843 in Torup, Hallands län, Sweden; died on 19 May 1903 in Superior, Douglas County, Wisconsin; was buried on 28 Jun 1939 in Crystal Lake Cemetery, Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptism: 29 Oct 1843, Torup, Hallands län, Sweden

Notes:

Emma Wilhelmina in her birth record in the Torup church records.

Terry says: Emma lived near Kånna in Sweden and at one time lived in town there with Salomon. At the time that she emigrated, they had been living at farm Berghem Vastergarden in Kånna Parish, Kronoberg län, Småland, South Sweden. (From the Household Exam records, she had moved the family from Andersgarden to Westregarden in 1879.)

The two women with whom Karl Oskar and Johan Alfred are shown as living with in the 1882-1891 Kånna Household Examination, Ingrid Kajsa Erlandsdatter (b. 1834) and Caroline Erlandsdatter (b. 1844), are also living in the Grönlund apartment in Berghem Westregard in the 1877-1881 Household Examination.

Cora said that Al had told her that Emma was a genteel lady, used to servants. She was supposedly part French and Al was proud of this. It’s unlikely that the servants part is true. The French part certainly isn’t.

From Jan in June of 2005: The info I have is that the Lundberg/ Lind families were what is called "Travellers" - kind of like Gypsies. The Travellers went all over Europe, USA and Canada. They say they are not Gypsies. They moved around a lot, some of them were quite violent. Some arrested for theft and one was listed as beaten to death. Some did own property in Sweden but they were not well treated, maybe because of their violent nature and reputation? If you search on the internet , you will find several websites that tell you about the "Roma people." It seems each country calls them a different name. In Sweden they called them "Travellers."

“Got her moving papers May 16, 1881.”

Emelie Vilhelmina Lundberg, född 1843-10-20 i Rydö, Torup N.
(f,hfl). E1881.. Amerika 188100516-? (?0510).
Adress Torup N ?-18670520,
Annerstad sn Socknens Slut P.359 piga 18670520-1867,
Annerstad sn Annerstad Hulugård 1867-?,
Kånna sn Berghem Andersgård ägare 18731107-1879,
Kånna sn Berghem Västregård lägenheten Grönlund ägare änkan {”widow, owner of apartment in Grönlund”}
1879-18810516, Amerika 18810516-?

Not listed in the in-migration records of Annerstad.

From the Emibas CD:

Post 244730

Lundberg, Emelie Wilhelmina
Ägare (property owner)

b. 10/20/1843 in Torup, Hallands län (Halland)

Emigrated 5/16/1881
from Berghem Westregård, Kånna, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Nordamerika

Source: Emibas migration file ID: Kånna G 1881 015


Post 244731

Lundberg, Josefina Karolina
Dotter (unmarried woman)

b. 7/11/1865 in Torup, Hallands län (Halland)

Emigrated 5/16/1881
from Berghem Westregård, Kånna, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Nordamerika

Source: Emibas migration file ID: Kånna G 1881 016

Post 244732

Lundberg, Karl Johan August
Son (unmarried man)

b. 10/20/1867 in Annerstad, Kronobergs län (Småland)

Emigrated 5/16/1881
from Berghem Westregård, Kånna, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Nordamerika

Source: Emibas migration file ID: Kånna G 1881 017

Post 244733

Lundberg, Hedda Sofia Linnea
Dotter (unmarried woman)

b. 12/9/1876 in Annerstad, Kronobergs län (Småland)

Emigrated 5/16/1881
from Berghem Westregård, Kånna, Kronobergs län (Småland)
to Nordamerika

Source: Emibas migration file ID: Kånna G 1881 018

Frank, 35, “Anna”, 37, Carl, 16, Ida, 14, and Sandy, 4, were in Cannon Falls in the 1885 Minnesota state census.

Emelie and Frank were still in Cannon Falls in 1895 according to entries in the 1895 Minnesota state census. The family consisted of Frank, 43, a tinner born in Sweden; Mrs. F, 42, born in Sweden; Oscar Fogelquist, 19, a common laborer born in Sweden; and Emil Fogelquist, 14, born in Minnesota.

The 1900 census said that she had 13 children, 7 of whom were living. We can identify only 6 still living at that time so either the 7 is simply incorrect or there is another child alive in 1900 that we don’t know about.

From Carl Johan’s sources, Emelie’s maternal haplogroup may be J1b3a.

Died:
date and location from the First Covenant Church records

Buried:
reburial by Ida Deiters, was originally buried in Superior

Notes:

According to Karen, Isaac and Brita had eight children, seven of whom came to the U.S.

Isaac married Brita JACOBSDOTTER. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]