Johan Gottlieb LUNDBERG

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Lumpsamlaren Och Artilleristen

Notes:

He was in the military in Karlsborg and had the number 39. The family moved from Varberg, Halland, to the Karlsborg garrison in 1831.

Carl Johan says that Anders Lundberg was an artillery man at Varberg and Karlsborg between the years of 1824 and 1832. Carl Johan also believes that Anders Lundberg was convicted of theft at least three times in Skåne in the years before 1824.

Carl Johan believes that Fredrik Lundberg, b. 1741 in Skåne, d. 1789-1792, may be the father of Anders and Anna Sophia Mentzner, b. ca 1740-1752, d. 1800, may be the mother of Anders. Alternatively, and perhaps more likely in Carl Johan’s opinion, is that Frederick Lundberg was Anders’s grandfather and that Anders’s father was Frederick’s son Petter, b. ca 1773 in Gothenburg, who would have fathered Anders at age 16.

By Carl Johan’s research, Frederick joined the military in 1776 at Malmö and was dismissed in 1789. Peter Lundberg served in the military from 1796 to May of 1798 when he was convicted of forgery.

Frederick also had a daughter, b. ca 1768 in Gothenburg, who died in 1778.

Petter Lundberg had a daughter named Anna Catharina with Sara Wennergren in 1796. Later, Sara had a daughter with Samuel Gustav Blom who was born in Abild parish, Halland county, on 23 Aug 1800. Anna Catharina Blom, having taken her step-father’s surname, had children with a man named Lindqvist, naming them with the combined surname Blomqvist. Quite interestingly, three of Johan Lundberg’s six sons married or had children with women with surnames Lindqvist or Blomqvist.

Anders also had a son name Johan Petter.

Carl Johan also found an old newspaper from January of 1798 which describes that the priest who had been asked to marry Petter Lundberg and Sara Wennergren demanded proof that Petter was not already married to another woman. Perhaps he had made up his own paperwork evidence to show that he was not married to another woman! Nevertheless, Sara Wennergren had a child with Blom two years later.

From all of his research, Carl Johan offers the following best guess, reasoning that we must be related to these people as they were the only Traveller Lundbergs in Sweden at that time:

Petter Lundberg. Soldier 1796-98 at Landskrona garnison. Born 1772 in Gothenburg. Engaged with Sara Wennergren 1796-98. Convicted for forgery in 1798 and dismissed from the Army.
Children: (here’s where the best guess comes in) son Anders born 1789 in Skåne, mother unknown. Daughter Anna Catharina born 1796 in Skåne, mother Sara Wennergren.

Fredrik Lundberg. Soldier from 1776 to around 1790 at Malmö garrison and wanderer (Swedish vandringsman). Born 1741 in Skåne, died around 1792 (perhaps in the war against Russia in 1790). Married with unknown women before 1782, married to Anna Sofia Mentzer (b. 1760-1752, d. 1800) after 1782.

Children: daughter Maria Helena born around 1767 in Gothenburg, died 1778 in Kronoberg. Son Petter born 1772 in Gothenburg. Daughter Sara Christina born 1782 in Skåne (mother Mentzer). Daughter Albertina born 1784. Daughter Fredrika born 1788, death 1789.

Further elaboration on Anders by Carl Johan:

“Anders Lundberg lived a short life: 42 years old when he died. He began his career as a farm hand and later at the age of 18 he went on to become a soldier, hussar, at Skånes Husarregemente. In all, Anders was a hussar, naval gunner, artillerist, vagabond and ragman at Klippan's paper mill. In 1811, 200 years ago, he was dismissed from the Army and began wandering the roads as a vagabond. It is clear that he came in contact with Travellers and befriendend them. He adopted a Traveller lifestyle that resembles that of other "real" Travellers of that time (e.g., working as naval gunner, ragman, coppersmith, etc.). He may have been seen as a Traveller by other Travellers. However, the only "real" Gypsy blood in his descendants comes in when his son Johan marries Maja Lisa Lind and when their children marry into other Traveller families. It can also be noted that Anders at 3 times was convicted for thievery and in 1821 he was sentenced to 10 days of water and bread.”

Also from Carl Johan: “In 1812 Anders was convicted for theft and got 40 lashes. Later a second time for theft with 40 lashes again and a third time for theft on water and bread.”

Birth:
Carl Johan’s research. Lyngby parish, Malmöhus län, Skåne.

Andreas married Elin STRÖMGREN. Elin (daughter of Johannes STRÖMGREN and Lena Pettersdotter) was born on 18 Feb 1787 in Kronobergs län, Småland, Sweden. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Not tattare. (And, apparently, neither was Anders.)

Carl Johan and Jan have found information suggesting that Karl Olaf Wigren, a sailor, may have been the biological father of Johan Mårten. In the birth records for Johan Mårten, he is shown as the illegitimate son of Elin Strömgren, no father listed. However, in the household examination for the fortress of Varberg and Karlsborg, Anders is stated as Johan’s father.

Carl Johan comments: “At a unknown date, Anders’s first wife Kersti dies or get divorce and he marries Elin Strömgren at an unknown date. Since Anders in the 1810ths was a naval gunner in Karlskrona, and that fact that Elin travelled in the same area as Anders, I suspect he was cheating on Kersti with Elin. In order to get a passport to Skåne, Elin told the authorities that she was to visit her uncle Henrik Bengtsson in Trelleborg. The problem is that she had no uncle Henrik so she obviously lied.”

Birth:
Östra Torsås socken

Notes:

According to Carl Johan, Petter was “the bailiff at Häckeberga castle” and, therefore, was known as Petter “Per på Häckeberga” Lundberg. As the bailiff (vogt) and butler at Häckeberga castle, Genarp, Skåne, he was the agent or steward of the owner of the castle. He lived approximately 1743-1801.

Petter married Elsa Catharina BORGSTRÖM on 5 Dec 1777 in Skåne län, Sweden. Elsa was born about 1751; died on 7 May 1812 in Lyngby, Skåne län, Sweden. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Carl Johan’s research says:

In the 1796-1802 Möllehus Lyngby household examination, the änka (widow) Catharina is listed with her two sons Sven, 17, and Andres, 12. In the next Möllehus household examination for the years 1806-1813, she is mother with son Sven and his family. Her son Anders at age 13 walked away and become a farmhand in Österlen, then at age 18 he went into the military at Landskrona.

Elsa Catharina Borgström of old age in Lyngby at the age of 61, which, with the previously estimated year of birth from household examination puts her birth in 1751. In my notes I have an Else Christina was born 17 Mar 1751 in Genarp but with illegible parents. Interestingly, the Lyngby wedding lists 9 Oct 1801 a chamber maid Fredrika Borgstrom from Top Barn (eg. Häckeberga Castle), who marries a sexton. I wonder where this Fredrika fits in the Borgström family? And at least one of the two weddings to this Fredrika Borgström is to “Johan Frid Rick's son."

Carl Johan believes that Elsa Catharina was likely allied to the otherwise unknown butler and weaver Borgström associated with Häckeberga in 1770 - 1780s.

Died:
“old age” apparently

Notes:

Married:
Genarps parish, Malmöhus län

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: sailor, tenant farmer

Notes:

Courtesy of Carl Johan.

Birth:
Östra Torsås socken

Johannes married Lena Pettersdotter on 10 May 1786. Lena was born about 1752. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Courtesy of Carl Johan.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: tenant farmer in Östra Torsås socken

Notes:

Courtesy of Carl Johan.

Died:
Östra Torsås socken

Nils married Sofia Elisabeth Nilsdotter STAKE on 6 Apr 1743 in Kronobergs län, Småland, Sweden. Sofia (daughter of Nils STAKE and Maria Hansdotter) was born about 1721. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Courtesy of Carl Johan.

Notes:

Married:
Jät socken