John Torgerson JOHNSRUD

Notes:

Jim has him as I6952 in Valdres Slekt. He calls him Jon Torgeirson Windingstad and has him born 26 Aug 1757 on Windingstad 33/5 Nedre in Øystre Slidre.

Birth:
Windingstad 33/5 Nedre

John married Ragnhild Knutsdatter ALFSTAD in 1775. Ragnhild was born about 1755 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway; died in 1826. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Knud Jonsen JONSRUD was born about 1795 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway; died after 1865 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway.
2. Torger Jonsen ALFSTAD was born in 1784 in Norway; died in 1820 in Norway.

Notes:

He is Torgeir Eivindson Reien Windingstad, I5203, in Jim’s VS.

Also farmed and/or owned Reie and Jonsrud.

Han var den eneste sonnen til Eivind Venningstad eller Reien, ogettersom han giftet seg til Jonsrud, ble mye jordegods samlet påhans hender.Ingeborg og Torgeir hadde 11 barn, og alle så nær som den yngstesonnen Jon (1770-1771) levde opp.

Foruten Eivind, hadde de barna:Ole (1748- ) bonde på Windingstad, bestefarens gård i ØstreSlidre, han var gift med Kari Olsdtr Magistad.Ole (1753-1809) bonde på Hovi i Østre Slidre. Han var gift medIngeborgEivindsdtr Sissel (1755- ) gift med Halvor Eivindsen Semelenge eller HamreJon (26/8.1757- ) bonde på Jonsrud.Knut (1758- ) gift med Ingeborg Olsdtr Hegge grb på HeggeMarit (1760- ) gift med Ole Olsen Alfstad grb på AlfstadKnut (1762- ) gift med Marit Gulliksdtr Onstad grb på OnstadIngrid (1765- ) gift med Ole Sveinson HeggeTorgeir (1765-1810) gift med Kirsti Andersdtr Rebne grb på RebneJon (1770-1771).

TVH 1948: Torger Evensen eide Reie, Windingstad (begge gårde)Voldene i Hegge og Jonsrud. Han bodde for det meste på Jonsrudsom han fikk da han giftet seg.

Han drev meget medtommerhandel. Det fortelles at han kjopte en huspostill og enbibel til hver av sine 10 barn for 10 spd stykket.

Torgeir Reien, Vindingstad eller Jonsrud kalles ofte for “STORBONDE” i Valdres Historielags Tidsskrift fra 1948, 2.hefte er det enstor oversikt over Vindingstad/Reie-slekten. Der er det trykt enfortelling skrevet av Torleiv Windingstad i 1818 om TorgeirReien. Torleiv Windingstad var organist i Sandefjord han døde i1923, 81 år gammel."Der kunde vistnok fortælles et og andet om Torgers Far Eivindog hans Fedre; men jeg velger allikevel fortelle om den Torgersom så mange i Vang, Slidre og Aurdahl kan kalde for entenOldefar, Tippoldefar eller Tippoldefars Far osv. Han var giftmed Ingebjorg Reien (HB: fodt Hamre eller Jonsrud), Hun skullevære for og stor, hvorfor hun kaldtes for "Reiensrugga". Paasine gamle dage holdt hun seg på Jonsrud, hvorfor hun her i O.Slidre er kjendt under Tilnavnet "Jonsrudrugga". Torger var ogsåen sterk Mand, og derfor var det intet rart i, at de havde 10Born, som vokste op, giftede sig og fik Masse Born. Et Exempelkan tjene som illustrasjon. I gravolet etter dattersonnen gamleSvein Hegge, var det 45 kvindelige søskenbarn og ligesaa mangemandlige. Torger Reien, som er den store og talrige SlægtStamfar, var i sin tid Valdres rigeste Mand; thi han eiede heleReiensgaarden i V. Slidre, Johnsrud, og heleVindingstad i Ø. Slidre, samt en Art Leilendingsbrug heleStor-Rudi. Han drev en stor Lastehandel og hug meget last i egneog indkjøbte Skoge. Omtr. ved År 1780 var han i Byen og bestilteda 10 Bibler og 10 Huspostiller a 40 Kr. pr. Stk., som hanforærede ved Hjemkomsten til sine Born, - 1 Bibel og 1 Postiltil hver. Paa Permen staar aarstallet 1781 og Navneneindtrykkede. Det var en Boggave for 800 Kroner. Jeg havde denBibel som min Oldefar, Knut Torgersen, fik. Torger R. kom ind imange Processer og Skriveren her i de dage, Nils Wissloff,kjendte ogsaa Sorenskriveren, - de var ikke Venner.Leilendingsgaarden, Store-Rudi undlod at betale den vanligeAfgift, efterat have bet. den i 21 Aar i Londom; thi efter Skikkom Manden paa Store-Rudi til Reien hver Juleaften forat betaleAfgiften, og han leverede da 18 Kg ferskØret. Han blev da indbudt paa Reien og staselig trakteret, ogved Afreisen blev forskjellige Gaver medsendt. Betalingenerlagde han naturligvis inde paa Kammeret paa Reien, og passedehan naturligvis paa at notere ned Tjeneres Navn, som saa paa, athan fik Gjengaver for Fisken og horte at Reiensfolkene takkedeham ved hans Afreise. Da 21 aar var forlopne, undlod Rudigubbenat komme til Reien både med Afgift og Fisk. Torgeir R. anlagdeda Process, og det blev en vidloftig Process. TorgeirsHovedvidner var Torgers Far og FarFar, Lensmand Torger Reien,dengang 80 Aar gl. (Forkortet av HB: Reie-folkene tapte i allerettsinstanser, se nedenfor hvor Knut Hermundstad forteller omhvordan det foregikk, her fortsetter fortellingen til TorleivVindingstad)"Da Underrettsdommen skulde forkyndes for Torgeir paa et Thingaf selveste Skriveren, Hr. Wisloff, stommede Almuen sammen forathore paa, og da Dommen var opplest, spurgte Torgeir om han fikLov til at synge et Salmevers, hvilket Skriveren Tillod. Detvar da Torger sang med Eftertryk på de forskjellige Ord: "Duuretferdige Dommmer, Som Retn har betjent, og har den oftevendt, og domt for Gunst og Hjeld, or skjenk og Gavers skyld,Det vil dig visselig Ikke blive Borneleg. Da du der for enhverStander baade rod og bleg. Gud lader domme dig Igjen retfærdig,Om du itide ei Vil gaa Naadens Vei, Men vil du gjore Bod Saaer og Jesus god og han skal visserlig Annamme dig." Derpaasagde han "Tak for domen, Smor-Nils" Manden i Rudi skulde nemligha givet Skriveren en anselig Gave i Smor. Mens Torger sang saSkriveren tilOvrigheden og Lagretten: "Hor han digter". "Nei", sa Torgerefterat ha sunget og udbragt sin Tak, "jeg digter ikke, - herer Bogen", og han tok den op og la den tungt p† Bordet" .....Etter at hoyesterett til slutt hadde sagt sitt og Rudi folkenehadde fått medhold, var de blitt s† fattige av utgiftene tilsaksforselen, at Rudimannen ble satt fast på et Ting for gjeld.Så forteller T.W. viere: "En paa Thinget gik til Store-Rudi ogvarslede at neste dag kom Ovrigheden for at exekvere (inndragods og verdier). I Nattens Mulm og Morke, kastede konene detmeste af al Stuestasen udover Stupet udenfor husene og ned iUren. Endel av Væggetjeldingen var igjen hos Peder Nesja forendel Aar tilbage. Men nu er det som saa meget andet,forsvundet. Store-Rudi-slægten findes nord i Hegge-bygden, delssom Husmandsfok osv.

Thingstedet i Slidre var i de Dage iser paa Hovie, og var det enufraigeligSki, at alle Bonder fra Aurdal-delet til Reien stansende vedeiensgaarden og biede paa Reins-gubben. Naar han var ferdig,kjorte han i spidsen for Folget; det vokste som Snebalden iToveir. Som folget kom paa Thingstaden, gik Sorenskiveren og deandre Ovrighedspersoner ud og hilsede paa Thingskaren; menTorger hilsedes i Haanden. Det var en ufravigelig Skik, og selvWisloff undlod ikke dette. Reien var i lange tiderTilsigelsesstation, sener Skydsstation; men er nu stationenflyttet til den nyopbyggede Fossheim Station. Det er letkjendelig, at paa denne store Slægt er det ligesom et Særmerke,at den er talrig, og at enviss Slægsfolelse og aristokratisk Selvagtelse er gaat i Blodet.man maa huske paa de ord af Sangeren som siger: "Det er stor Arvfor Manden af godt Folk være fodt."

Torleiv Windingstad og Knut Hermundstad skiver i samme utgave av VHT om den samme historienom da Store-Rudi forsøkte å fri seg fra avgiftene sine. Se omhans versjon under merknaden til kona Ingebjorg.

Torgeir var en av de rikeste bonder i Valdres i sin tid. Haneide både Reien, Windingstad og Jonsrud. Han flyttet tilJonsrud og lot sonnene overta R. og W.

He was the only son of Eivind Venningstad or Reien, and after he married Jonsrud, a lot of land was collected in his hands. Ingeborg and Torgeir had 11 children, and all as close as the youngest son Jon (1770-1771) lived.

Besides Eivind, they had children: Ole (1748- ) farmer at Windingstad, his grandfather's farm in ØstreSlidre, he was married to Kari Olsdtr Magistad. Ole (1753-1809) farmer at Hovi in ??Østre Slidre. He was married to IngeborgEivindsdtr Sissel (1755- ) married to Halvor Eivindsen Semelenge or HamreJon (26/8.1757- ) farmer at Jonsrud. Knut (1758- ) married to Ingeborg Olsdtr Hegge grb at HeggeMarit (1760- ) married to Ole Olsen Alfstad grb at AlfstadKnut (1762- ) married to Marit Gulliksdtr Onstad grb at OnstadIngrid (1765- ) married to Ole Sveinson HeggeTorgeir (1765-1810) married to Kirsti Andersdtr Rebne grb at RebneJon (1770-1771).

TVH 1948: Torger Evensen owned Reie, Windingstad (both farms) Voldene i Hegge and Jonsrud. He mostly lived at Jonsruds, which he got when he got married.

He did a lot of wholesale trade. It is said that he bought a house postil and a Bible for each of his 10 children for 10 spd each.

Torgeir Reien, Vindingstad or Jonsrud is often called "LARGE FARMER" in Valdre's Historielags Tidsskrift from 1948, 2nd booklet, there is a comprehensive overview of the Vindingstad/Reie family. A story written by Torleiv Windingstad in 1818 about TorgeirReien is printed there. Torleiv Windingstad was an organist in Sandefjord. He died in 1923, aged 81. "You could probably tell a little about Torger's Father Eivindog his Fathers; but I still choose to tell about the Torger that so many in Vang, Slidre and Aurdahl can call either Oldefather, Tippoldefar or Tippoldefar's Father etc. He was married to Ingebjorg Reien (HB: born Hamre or Jonsrud), She was supposed to be too big, why she was called "Reiensrugga". In her old days she stayed at Jonsrud, why she here in O.Slidre is known by the nickname "Jonsrudrugga". It was therefore no wonder that they had 10 children, who grew up, married and had Masse Born. An example can serve as an illustration of his daughter, Svein Hegge , there were 45 female cousins ??and just as many male ones. Torger Reien, who is the great and numerous SlægtStamfar, was in his time Valdre's richest man, because he owned the entire Reiensgaarden in V. Slidre, and the entire Vindingstad in Ø. Slidre. Leilendingsbrug heleStor-Rudi. He ran a large cargo trade and cut a lot of cargo in his own and purchased Skoge. Approx. in 1780 he was in the city and then ordered 10 Bibles and 10 house postils for 40 kroner. per Stk., which he presented at the Homecoming to his children, - 1 Bible and 1 Postil to each. On the perm is the year 1781 and the names impressed. It was a book gift for 800 kroner. I had the Bible that my Great-Grandfather, Knut Torgersen, got. Torger R. entered many Processes and the Clerk here in those days, Nils Wissloff, also knew the Magistrate, - they were not friends. the one for 21 years in Londom; because according to custom, the man on Store-Rudi came to Rien every Christmas Eve to pay the tax, and he then delivered 18 kg of the fresh ear. He was then invited to the Reien and the stately tract, and on his departure various gifts were sent along.

He naturally made payments inside the chamber on the ship, and he naturally took care to write down the names of the servants who saw to it that he received gifts for the fish and heard that the ship's people thanked him on his departure. When 21 years had passed, Rudigubbenat failed to come to Reien with both Tax and Fish. Torgeir R. created the Process, and it turned out to be a wide-ranging Process. Torgeir's main witness was Torger's father and great-grandfather, policeman Torger Reien, then 80 years old. (Abbreviated by HB: The Reie people lost in the first instance, see below where Knut Hermundstad tells how it happened, here the story continues to TorleivVindingstad)"When the Lower Court judgment was to be served on Torgeir at a Thingaf the Scribe himself, Mr. Wisloff, the common people stood together in front of , and when the Judgment was read, Torgeir asked if he was allowed to sing a psalm verse, which the Scribe permitted. It was then that Torger sang with emphasis on the various words: Favor and Hjeld, or bestowal and Gift's fault, It will certainly not be Borneleg to you. When you stand there for everyone, both red and pale. God will let you be judged again justly, If you don't want to walk the path of grace, But you will do penance and Jesus will be good and he will certainly accept you." Then he said "Thank you for the judgement, Smor-Nils" The man in Rudi should have given The Scribe a considerable Gift in Smor. While Torger sang the Scribe to the Court and the Court: "No," said Torger after singing and uttering his Tak, "I'm not a poet," and he picked it up and put it heavily on the table" ..... After the Supreme Court had finally said its case and Rudi Folkenehad won, they had become so poor from the expenses of the lawsuit, that the Rudi man was arrested on a debt. So tells T.W. viere: "One of the people at the Thing went to Store-Rudi and announced that the next day the authorities were coming to execute (impropriation and valuables). In the dark and dark of the night, the wives threw most of all the Stuestasen over the cliff outside the houses and into the Uren. Part of the Væggetjeldingen was again at Peder Nesja's last year, but now that much else has disappeared.

Thingstedet in Slidre was in those days ice on Hovie, and it was unmissable Ski, that all farmers from the Aurdal part to Reien stopped the wood holdings and bid on the Reins old man. When he had finished, he drove at the head of the pack; it grew like Snebalden in Toveir. As the retinue arrived at Thingstaden, Sorenskiveren and the other dignitaries went out and greeted Thingskaren; butTorger is greeted with a handshake. It was an invariable Custom, and even Wisloff did not escape this. Reien was for a long time a reporting station, later a shooting station; but the station has now been moved to the newly built Fossheim Station. It is easy to see that this great family has a special mark, that it is numerous, and that a certain sense of family and aristocratic self-respect is in the blood. One must remember the words of the singer who says: "There is a great inheritance for the man of well People be foot."

Torleiv Windingstad and Knut Hermundstad discuss the same story in the same issue of VHT when Store-Rudi tried to free himself from his taxes. See his version under the note to his wife Ingebjorg.

Torgeir was one of the richest farmers in Valdres in his time. Haneide both Reien, Windingstad and Jonsrud. He moved to Jonsrud and let his sons take over R. and W.

Birth:
Reien 51/1

Torgeir married Ingeborg Olsdatter HAMRE on 13 Oct 1746 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway. Ingeborg (daughter of Ola Tollefsen HAMRE and Marit Olsdotter HAUGE) was born in 1725 in Vestre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway; died in 1801 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway; was buried on 8 Mar 1801 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Jim has her as I5204 in Valdres Slekt. He calls her Ingebjørg Olsdatter Hamre and has her born 1725 on Hamre or Jonsrud in Vestre Slidre.

dwfrench1 calls her Ingeborg Olsdatter Hambre, b. 1722 on Hambre in Vestre Slidre.

"Jonsrudrugga" See Ole Toresson Austreim 72/2

Birth:
Hamre or Jonsrud

Notes:

Married:
Engaged 15 May 1746

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Farmer

Notes:

Also farmed and/or owned Reie. See p. 30-31 Ø. Slidre B.

Birth:
Vik

Died:
age 90

Buried:
age 90

Eivind + Sissel Jonsdotter KVÅLE. Sissel (daughter of Jon Jøgerson KVÅLE and Birgit Julsdatter KVÅLE) was born on 1679 or 1683 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway; died in 1760. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

In his Valdres Slekt, Jim calls him Ola Tollefsen Hamre, #I20232 and has him born 1662 on Hamre 58/1 Nørre in Vestre Slidre and dying in 1758. His father was Tollef Knutsen Hamre, b. ca 1625.

In his Ellingboe, Jim calls him Ola Tollefsen Hamre, #I3305 and also has him born 1662 in Vestre Slidre and dying in 1758. In his notes, Jim says that this Ola “obtained Jonsrud through his marriage. He and his wife farmed both farms for many years. They lived for awhile at Jonsrud. Ola's older brother was also called Ola, and these two Olas worked the same farm for a long time, but when the older brother died without heirs, the younger Ola received the whole farm according to a decision of the court.”

Ola + Marit Olsdotter HAUGE. Marit was born in 1688 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway; died in Jan 1746 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway; was buried on 10 Jan 1746 in Øystre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

In his Valdres Slekt, Jim has her as I25862.

Buried:
age 58

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Farmer

Torgeir + Ingri Tølleivsdotter REIE OR MAJISTAD. Ingri died in Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Birth:
Kvåle 39/1

Jon + Birgit Julsdatter KVÅLE. Birgit was born about 1655 in Vestre Slidre i Valdres, Oppland, Norway. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

She is I5029 in Jim’s VS. No information on her parents.

Oluf was her first husband. Jim says: “When Oluf died, Birgit (or Bergit) married her neighbor Jon Jøgerson from Øvre Kvåle and he worked both farms until Birgit's son Jul could take over.”

Birth:
Kvåle 40/8